GDE Executive Committee: Public Meeting Minutes 3 August 2006

Present:
B. Barish, B. Foster, M. Nozaki, T. Raubenheimer, K. Yokoya, M. Hronek (sec)

Absent:
N. Walker, G. Dugan

Public Minutes 27-JUL-06; comments to Max in 24 hrs than post

Announcements: none

Actions Items: Skip this week.

GDE presentation to the ILCSC

  • Not many problematic questions, mostly clarifications. No costing questions.
  • Big point was should costs be confidential until reviewed in the spring?
    • Positive response to the action of having a spring cost review
    • It will be a unified and international review
  • Should we sponsor another ILC school – yes but when?
    • It should be combined with regional schools
    • 1 st attempt should be with the USPAS

Process Discussion

  • Are we doing as well as can?
  • Most sensitive issue right now 14 mrad change
    • Concern with the physics community
  • our process cannot be distorted
  • we need to be able to defend our decisions

Cost Distribution

  • Restrictions may be limiting
    • PG need help – he is making a list, soon to be sent out
    • We need other people involved. We have good people and they can get involved but they will need access to the costs.
    • Scope issues are good
    • How can change/modify the process in order to get help
    • PG to bring names/additions to the EC and the EC must clear them quickly.

Post RDR

  • After the RDR, this will be a new territory
  • We need to motivate towards construction phase
  • Important: conceptual to engineering design, we need more people, more discipline and project management.
  • Move to new name -- EDR (Engineering Design Report)
  • We don’t want to be seen as a DOE type design or any other gov region
  • We will the define the phase of that part of the project
  • Not a lot of good models out there , but there our a few. We need to do our homework and study some examples on how to proceed.
    • Examples
      • ALMA
        • Regional organization
        • Run by several organizations, ESP, NSF, BRO
        • Look at org and communications with gov.
          • BF comment: Spoke with Richard Wade. ALMA a disaster. Maybe we can learn what NOT to do.
      • ITER
        • Some similarities, but they are not as globally broad
        • Project side is similar
        • Main difference is just a few countries and is a top-down project
        • 10 year preliminary tech design,R&D
      • Square Kilometer Array (SKA)
        • US side disorganized
        • They do have the equivalent of the GDE
        • 2M Euro budget year
        • International collaboration but not as global as GDE
  • We should use these projects and others; do the homework through the fall.
  • Define next few years to move as project, but stay clear of governments. We don’t want that to dominate.
  • BF to get small document together by KEK. Are there any Japanese projects for study?
  • This is now an action item.

Next meeting – August 10.

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